Boris Lvin (bbb) wrote,
Boris Lvin

911 - еще раз о новой видеокассете, уже чуть более детально

Утверждается, что ключевыми элементами, позволяющими связать бен Ладена с терактом, являются его слова о том, что:

- он обрадовался, что башни разрушены полностью, а не частично (как он предполагал);
- будут еще новые атаки на США;
- некоторые из участников теракта не знали, что их ожидает смерть.

Первые два пункта не кажутся очень убедительными. Первый пункт может означать, что он, увидев первые сообщения, не ожидал полного разрушения башен. Это общее место - никто этого не ожидал. Просто для него это радость, а для других - нет. Второй пункт может быть типичным блефом, фигурой речи. Пророчества гибели США - любимое занятие многих тысяч дураков во всем мире. Так и Вербицкого привлечь можно.

А вот третий пункт, если соответствует действительности - вещь серьезная.

Правда, не сказано, когда была произведена запись. Ведь сообщения о том, что окончательная цель теракта была известна только некоторым из террористов, в то время как другие, видимо, рассчитывали на типичный угон самолета с предъявлением требований - эти сообщения прошли по всем газетам. Так что надо посчитать, сделана ли запись ДО этих сообщений или ПОСЛЕ. Что обсуждает бен Ладен - свои знания о подготовке теракта или последние новости CNN.


Cheney Finds Video Convincing. Officials Undecided About Releasing Tape of Bin Laden

By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 10, 2001; Page A10

Vice President Cheney said yesterday that he has seen the videotape of Osama bin Laden discussing in Arabic the attacks on the World Trade Center, and the al Qaeda leader's words as translated to Cheney leave "no doubt about his responsibility for the attack on September 11."

Cheney and two other senior Bush administration officials who have seen segments of the videotape yesterday said a decision has yet to be made about its release.

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz indicated that release might somehow jeopardize the source of the tape or block obtaining more such tapes. Existance of the tape, which sources said was found in a private home in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, was first disclosed yesterday in The Washington Post.

"Releasing it is something that we've got to consider in light of the question of how we got it," Wolfowitz said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

"It involves sources and methods. . . . Obviously, if there [are] other videos to be acquired by the same means, we don't want to interfere with our ability to do that," he said.

Some Bush administration officials have been arguing that releasing the tape could reduce concern in the Muslim world that Washington has unjustly accused bin Laden. The question discussed last week in the White House-based public relations operation begun by the United States and Britain last month and run by presidential counselor Karen P. Hughes was whether Arab audiences would believe the tape's content because of the amateur nature of the video and spotty sound.

Cheney said he would leave it to "someone more knowledgeable [to] figure out" releasing the tape. He added that the administration has "not been eager to give the guy any extra television time than he can obtain for himself."

Wolfowitz said the United States "had absolutely clear-cut evidence before that tape turned up" but that he was not sure what it would take to stop what he described as "these wild conspiracy theories that suggest someone else" other than bin Laden was responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The tape shows bin Laden "being interviewed or meeting with another individual, apparently a cleric, talking about the events of September 11 . . . and it's pretty clear as it's described to me that he does, in fact, display significant knowledge of what happened," Cheney said during an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Another administration official familiar with the tape said the taping appears to be of a dinner where bin Laden is honoring one or more older mullahs.

He describes the pleasure he took in learning that the World Trade Center towers collapsed totally to the ground when they had expected them to fall only to the points where the two hijacked airliners struck.

At another point on the videotape, bin Laden said when the first report of the attack came in, he indicated to the group he was with that more attacks were coming.

Wolfowitz said that from the segments he had seen, bin Laden "bragged and boasted" about the Sept. 11 attacks. Calling bin Laden's manner on the tape "disgusting," Wolfowitz added: "I mean, this is a man who takes pride and pleasure in having killed thousands of innocent human beings."

Bin Laden also said on the tape that some of the participants in the airliner hijackings who died when the four planes crashed did not know they were on a suicide mission, Reuters reported.

"He is amused by the fact that some of these people who were martyred, they thought they were just taking part in a hijacking," Reuters quoted an unidentified U.S. official as saying.

Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on "Face the Nation" that from the segments he saw, bin Laden "was conducting . . . a private conversation" and appeared "very relaxed."

Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said on CNN's "Late Edition" that he had not seen the tape but added: "I think it should be made public." He questioned, however, whether it could be shown "so it has more credibility in the eyes of people who want to have a positive view of this guy."

Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), on the same program, said the tape's release "is in the interest of this country. . . . It allows the world to see exactly what we are dealing with."

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